Wes Fryer’s great talk on cyberbullying

Wes Fryer released a phenomenal cyberbullying presentation via podcast last month accompanied by an incredible wiki that you should review concerning cyberbullying.

I am sharing it here via Innertoob with annotations from me (markers that show you where things are in the talk that I've commented on.)

f you want to comment or add to the annotations, please do, just sign up for an Innertoob account. (If you want to know more about it, we had Carter Harkins of the Innertoob.com service on WOW2 last night! Listen to the show.)

Launch Innertoob Player

A note about innertoob
I'm a little uncomfortable with the fact that Innertoob seems to rip the entire podcast from the original location without a link back to the original, so I think that one should only do this (even if it is licensed under Creative commons) with permission even though it does make the podcast more findable. (I sent an e-mail to Wes letting him know and I'll share with you what he thinks. If he thinks it needs to come down, even as useful as the annotations are, I'll take it down and just leave the link to his original podcast.)

I am just learning about this service so I may be wrong about the technical details of it! It seems VERY useful to me at first use!

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Vicki Davis is a full-time classroom teacher and IT Director in Georgia, USA. She is Mom of three, wife of one, and loves talking about the wise, transformational use of technology for teaching and doing good in the world. She hosts the 10 Minute Teacher Podcast which interviews teachers around the world about remarkable classroom practices to inspire and help teachers. Vicki focuses on what unites us -- a quest for truly remarkable life-changing teaching and learning. The goal of her work is to provide actionable, encouraging, relevant ideas for teachers that are grounded in the truth and shared with love. Vicki has been teaching since 2002 and blogging since 2005. Vicki has spoken around the world to inspire and help teachers reach their students. She is passionate about helping every child find purpose, passion, and meaning in life with a lifelong commitment to the joy and responsibility of learning. If you talk to Vicki for very long, she will encourage you to "Relate to Educate" or "innovate like a turtle" or to be "a remarkable teacher." She loves to talk to teachers who love their students and are trying to do their best. Twitter is her favorite place to share and she loves to make homemade sourdough bread and cinnamon rolls and enjoys running half marathons with her sisters. You can usually find her laughing with her students or digging into a book.

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Andrew Pass Educational Services, LLC March 29, 2007 - 2:28 pm

Hi Vicki,

I just wanted to let you know that I have written a blog about this post on my own blog. The entry contains a set of questions related to ownership of information and Innertoob.

I’m sitting here listening to Wes’s podcast. It’s incredible how products are built through collaboration even when people don’t know each other or work together specifically. To borrow Wes’s comment, it shouldn’t be “read only.”

Andrew Pass

Nathan Lowell March 30, 2007 - 1:13 pm

Hi Vicki: (Please forgive me for the 3rd person references to you in this next bit. Maintaining referential integrity on the pronouns is too gnarly for my brain to cope with without at least one more cup of coffee.)

While I’m not a lawyer, I did spend the night at a Day’s Inn so …

The following question, at least the factual portions of it, seem pretty straightforward:

4. Vicki Davis slightly changed Wes Fryer’s podcast by adding in new annotations. Who’s the creator of the podcast that Vicki placed on Innertoob, Vicki or Wes? Does it matter? Is there a certain point at which the product ceases to be Wes’s and becomes Vicki’s?

Technically, the Innertoob post with Vicki-notes on it is a derivative work. That makes it Vicki’s. The CC-by-3.0 license on Wes’s podcast makes that ok so long as VICKI (not Innertoob) provides a link back. I can’t see the posting in Innertoob right now because it’s not compatible with my linux laptop, but I’m gonna assume (dangerous at best) that there’s some place in making the post and notes that Vicki could make the notionational link back to Wes’s blog. It becomes Vicki’s as soon as it’s published, but I don’t know what license Vicki has placed on it because I can’t see it. (See above).

The “does it matter?” part of the question has to do with the license on the original. It’s ok for Vicki to make a derivative work from Wes’s work, because it’s licenced that way. It’s NOT ok for Vicki to make a derivative work of — say — the third episode of my Podiobook because it’s licensed NoDerivs.

Where everything else in this question is pretty well defined. The “Does it matter?” part is more ethical — and has potential legal implications. It *might* matter, but the question can’t be answered in general because of the wide variations in circumstance.

Just my opinion.

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