Notes from Dan Pink Session Tonight

Twenty nine of us at the session with Dan Pink tonight over at Discovery educators took notes! We're still working on them and you can view the google doc to take a look of the current information.

I've pasted the current document below. Great session!

Group Notes from Discovery Educators Webinar with Dan Pink

December 13, 2007

Notes as taken by 29 participants.

  • _Right brain = creative, artistic
  • Left brain = teach to the test, logical
  • Impact of Abundance – Asia – Automation
  • Utility and Significance and its importance.
  • The media often reports the bad thing that happens quickly rather than the quiet good thing that happens slowly.
  • The role of school is not to deliver employees to employers however this dominates conversation


  • Material prosperity
  • Good news that happens quietly doesn't get the airtime of bad news that happens quickly — that is a profound statement
  • Utility and significance……utility is ubiquitous

Offshoring and outsourcing

  • Not a huge number of white color jobs lost to offshoring (only 400,000 jobs lost to this)
    This outsourcing has been under hyped.
  • India has 1 billion people — a tiny fraction of india's population
  • White Collar processes are being automated like blue collar jobs have in the past..(i.e. uncontested divorces)
  • 1 million us tax reports done in India last year

Design – Putting significance and meaning to what is learned

rest are in the book

High Tech??

High Concept and High Touch matter more

A world of ubiquitous facts

Putting facts into context and deliver with emotional impact

Novelty and Nuance

  • in education, going the other direction
  • Alexandria–need to prepare kids for
  • Novelty, nuance and customisation….business world
  • Education = standardisation
  • an education world going toward right answers
  • We need to move towards solving problems, designing solutions, facilitating change (from Vicki)

We need to prepare kids for their future, not our past!


1. New metrics:

What gets measured gets done. We are not as good at measuring other abilities.

Attributes of an educational system going in the right direction

Robert Sternberg

Rainbow Project alternative SAT

Better predictor of success in college than the SAT

Quote about SAT

Generalists score better than specialists. Need for new met

JSPE testing program

2. Multi-mania for measuring things.

  • “Multi-mania”
  • be able to ask good questions…as well as have good answers
  • Example: medical students in art gallery

  • We need to prepare kids for the multi-ness in the world. We're not multi enough in schools. Rich Manisco? sp? Fairfax Co. Schools
  • Teaching medical students empathy. Not a vending machine for correct answers but rather a person who can ask the right questions. Extraordinary observation skills. Algorithmic left brain, yes, but holisticly like a painter or sculptor.

3. Arts Integration

Arts Integration is important

teaching design–need more art, not less

Ornamental or essential??

4. Life integration–integrate students into the rest of the world

How can we make school MATCH the real world- currently subjects don't match – create new majors, courses

Kevin Jarrett – SL in the classroom (We will need to talk to him if we want to do something with SL in the classroom.)

It should be at all levels. Kids are already artists.

The Big Picture Schools

  • Integrate kids into the rest of the world – big picture schools – Providence
  • What are you interested in? Build curriculum around it
  • This is so important. Good teachers find out what their students are interested in.

5. Autonomy

  • Autonomy — Kids need autonomy — teachers need autonomy
  • However, trend moving in opposite direction
  • Teachers' work is heroic–not trying to make $$, trying to make a difference for children.
  • — To join a discussion group about the book
  • Alan levine brilliant '50 ways to tell a story'

“Preparing our students for their future, not our past ”

– His e-mail

Quotes from the conclusion of the Session

  • He wants his kids to be the best they can and to crave learning. Parents are also responsible for building the love of learning and curiosity
  • Admins are frustrated as much as teachers. Difficult jobs
  • Citizens need to make an urgent economic case- make the arguments.
  • Need to have CEO's to talk about that they need to be able to hire people who are creative. want to hire people who have broader capacities
  • bubble test weenies – LOL
  • We need to continue to POUND on it – we don't know which POUND will be the one that makes the difference
    Email to join a discussion group re Pink's book and concepts
  • But the process of giving them a problem they couldn't do alone and not giving them an answer was a good one — we need to give students “problems” and encourage them to solve it. – Vicki Davis
  • Schools had a role when information was scarce…..what is the purpose now where information is abundant??
  • The traditional role of the school is being called into question- where information is abundant and the half-life of knowledge is amazingly short
  • “Knowledge is no longer scarce”
  • How can a teacher produce that — I always say — if you're always weighing the chicken, when do you feed the chicken? The chicken is skinny b/c the chicken is always on the scale. – Vicki Davis

Upcoming Pink Project

New book coming out in April: Manga as from Japan

160 page graphic novel: The Last Career Guide you will ever need

Another book:

The science and economics of intrinsic motivation

he's a blogger

Action Items

1 – A Delicious tag about collaborative projects encouraging design – Set up 12/13/2007 wholenewmind_projects – -see

2 – a flickr photo pool on design

Chat Room Text is available through Lisa Parisi … I archived the chat but it is too large to include here (so says Google Docs). If you would like a copy, DM me at twitter – lparisi.

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Vicki Davis is a full-time classroom teacher and IT Director in Georgia, USA. She is Mom of three, wife of one, and loves talking about the wise, transformational use of technology for teaching and doing good in the world. She hosts the 10 Minute Teacher Podcast which interviews teachers around the world about remarkable classroom practices to inspire and help teachers. Vicki focuses on what unites us -- a quest for truly remarkable life-changing teaching and learning. The goal of her work is to provide actionable, encouraging, relevant ideas for teachers that are grounded in the truth and shared with love. Vicki has been teaching since 2002 and blogging since 2005. Vicki has spoken around the world to inspire and help teachers reach their students. She is passionate about helping every child find purpose, passion, and meaning in life with a lifelong commitment to the joy and responsibility of learning. If you talk to Vicki for very long, she will encourage you to "Relate to Educate" or "innovate like a turtle" or to be "a remarkable teacher." She loves to talk to teachers who love their students and are trying to do their best. Twitter is her favorite place to share and she loves to make homemade sourdough bread and cinnamon rolls and enjoys running half marathons with her sisters. You can usually find her laughing with her students or digging into a book.

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1 comment

ike January 9, 2008 - 11:51 am

i like computers and you are right about them. oh, thanks for that comment.

IM IN Maryland

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